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		<title>By: Niche Modeling &#187; Errors Adding Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niche Modeling &#187; Errors Adding Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] claim that current temperature levels are &#8216;unprecedented in the last 1000 years&#8217;, is based on faulty calculation of confidence limits that fails to account for selection bias in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Niche Modeling &#187; Free CO2 For All</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/aig-article/comment-page-1/#comment-117765</link>
		<dc:creator>Niche Modeling &#187; Free CO2 For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unlike current models suggesting 3C increase for doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere, the semi-infinite theory suggests very little warming from increases in greenhouse gases, around 0.24C for CO2 doubling. This is because the earth&#8217;s atmosphere adjusts water vapor levels and cloud albedo to compensate for the CO2, in order to maintain an optimal level of greenhouse effect.  If correct, there would be no concerns with &#8216;runaway warming&#8217;. More importantly, the Nations could continue their economic development with fossil fuels, producing as much CO2 as they like, and increasing the levels in the atmosphere without any fears of climate catastrophe.  Previously, in a post with my initial impressions answered my first question whether the approach Ferenc was taking was sound. The second question in my mind was how a theory with constant greenhouse might produce changes in surface temperatures. The result of my ruminations on that will be published in Australian Institute of Geologists Newsletter (AIG) shortly. Previously I put a article on the there showing the circular reasoning in climate hockey stick reconstruction.  Briefly, even though the temperature of the troposphere stays relatively constant, there are a number of ways. Variations in solar intensity can change temperatures. The temperature of the stratosphere could influence the surface temperature. Other ways of influencing surface temperature are changes in emissivity and albedo. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unlike current models suggesting 3C increase for doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere, the semi-infinite theory suggests very little warming from increases in greenhouse gases, around 0.24C for CO2 doubling. This is because the earth&#8217;s atmosphere adjusts water vapor levels and cloud albedo to compensate for the CO2, in order to maintain an optimal level of greenhouse effect.  If correct, there would be no concerns with &#8216;runaway warming&#8217;. More importantly, the Nations could continue their economic development with fossil fuels, producing as much CO2 as they like, and increasing the levels in the atmosphere without any fears of climate catastrophe.  Previously, in a post with my initial impressions answered my first question whether the approach Ferenc was taking was sound. The second question in my mind was how a theory with constant greenhouse might produce changes in surface temperatures. The result of my ruminations on that will be published in Australian Institute of Geologists Newsletter (AIG) shortly. Previously I put a article on the there showing the circular reasoning in climate hockey stick reconstruction.  Briefly, even though the temperature of the troposphere stays relatively constant, there are a number of ways. Variations in solar intensity can change temperatures. The temperature of the stratosphere could influence the surface temperature. Other ways of influencing surface temperature are changes in emissivity and albedo. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Frank</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/aig-article/comment-page-1/#comment-51153</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;one wonders why it is taking so long for the authors of the hokey stick to recant and admit natural climate variability.&quot;

This question is not only at the core of the continuing debate about the HS, but is central to the entire field of AGW. You know better than almost anyone, David, that M&amp;M 2003 definitively showed the HS to be -- in a word -- bogus. After MM03, everyone should have known what your AIG article proves, namely that the output HS was pre-implanted in the methodology. 

In ordinary science, the authors of a disproved study would have had to swallow hard, admit the mistake, and carry on to better work. I&#039;ve seen this happen in chemistry a few times, and even once or twice when the mistake concerned what would have been a reputation-making result. Scientists with integrity back off when proven wrong.

But not the HS authors. They elected immediately to brazen it out, no matter that MM03 was, in and of itself, a definitive disproof. Not only that, but even von Storch and his collaborators could not bring themselves to completely accept that conclusion. And so now, more than four years later, we have you, David, writing an updated HS disproof in AIG. In normal science, that would not have been necessary. Nevertheless, the HS authors will probably brazen out your disproof, too.

This &#039;long term insistence&#039; :-)  on sticking with an explicitly disproved result shows that the authors of the HS do not have the integrity of their claimed profession. They are, in short, dishonest; dishonest in a way analogously identical to the standards violations committed by the professionals of Arthur Anderson in the Enron case.

Likewise in the field of AGW at large, where claims of a CO2-imposed climate disaster are made on the basis of time-wise projections using GCMs that demonstrably have no ability to make accurate predictions of future global climate. Any reading of GCM literature shows this to be the case. Field-competent scientists who are climate catastrophists do not display the integrity of their claimed profession.

The only conclusion possible here is that these people have an irrational loyalty to a single view. That view is protected against exposure to definitive disproofs. Even highly intelligent people with highly trained mentalities are prey to this mistake. Privilege granted to intuitive inner certitude -- the claim to know without benefit of knowledge -- is rife among we humans. Our only escape from it is a conscious adherence to the standard of science. 

AGW catastrophism is doubly dangerous because its proponents have abandoned, indeed subverted, our only protection against irrationality. 

It&#039;s as though a group of doctors were insisting, against all disproofs, on gourd-rattling as a viable substitute for childhood vaccination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;one wonders why it is taking so long for the authors of the hokey stick to recant and admit natural climate variability.&#8221;</p>
<p>This question is not only at the core of the continuing debate about the HS, but is central to the entire field of AGW. You know better than almost anyone, David, that M&amp;M 2003 definitively showed the HS to be &#8212; in a word &#8212; bogus. After MM03, everyone should have known what your AIG article proves, namely that the output HS was pre-implanted in the methodology. </p>
<p>In ordinary science, the authors of a disproved study would have had to swallow hard, admit the mistake, and carry on to better work. I&#8217;ve seen this happen in chemistry a few times, and even once or twice when the mistake concerned what would have been a reputation-making result. Scientists with integrity back off when proven wrong.</p>
<p>But not the HS authors. They elected immediately to brazen it out, no matter that MM03 was, in and of itself, a definitive disproof. Not only that, but even von Storch and his collaborators could not bring themselves to completely accept that conclusion. And so now, more than four years later, we have you, David, writing an updated HS disproof in AIG. In normal science, that would not have been necessary. Nevertheless, the HS authors will probably brazen out your disproof, too.</p>
<p>This &#8216;long term insistence&#8217; <img src='http://landshape.org/enm/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   on sticking with an explicitly disproved result shows that the authors of the HS do not have the integrity of their claimed profession. They are, in short, dishonest; dishonest in a way analogously identical to the standards violations committed by the professionals of Arthur Anderson in the Enron case.</p>
<p>Likewise in the field of AGW at large, where claims of a CO2-imposed climate disaster are made on the basis of time-wise projections using GCMs that demonstrably have no ability to make accurate predictions of future global climate. Any reading of GCM literature shows this to be the case. Field-competent scientists who are climate catastrophists do not display the integrity of their claimed profession.</p>
<p>The only conclusion possible here is that these people have an irrational loyalty to a single view. That view is protected against exposure to definitive disproofs. Even highly intelligent people with highly trained mentalities are prey to this mistake. Privilege granted to intuitive inner certitude &#8212; the claim to know without benefit of knowledge &#8212; is rife among we humans. Our only escape from it is a conscious adherence to the standard of science. </p>
<p>AGW catastrophism is doubly dangerous because its proponents have abandoned, indeed subverted, our only protection against irrationality. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s as though a group of doctors were insisting, against all disproofs, on gourd-rattling as a viable substitute for childhood vaccination.</p>
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		<title>By: ENM &#187; How to start a science blog (scary version)</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/aig-article/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>ENM &#187; How to start a science blog (scary version)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Surf &#187; Home @ AIG Article [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Surf &#187; Home</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/aig-article/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Surf &#187; Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Australian Institute of Geoscientists Publication [...]</description>
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