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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#039;adjustments&#039;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;<a href="ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut</a> I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#039;adjustments&#039;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;<a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492</a></p>
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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-1035</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-o...&lt;/a&gt;Another paper based in the US is here;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-t...&lt;/a&gt;Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#039;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-o&#8230;</a>Another paper based in the US is here;<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-t&#8230;</a>Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#039;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</p>
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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-12041</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;

ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdf

But I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#039;adjustments&#039;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;</p>
<p><a href="ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdf" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdf</a></p>
<p>But I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#8216;adjustments&#8217;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492</a></p>
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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>cohenite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#039;adjustments&#039;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torok and Nicholls were updated in 2004;<a href="ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/change/HQannualT/HQannualT_info.pdfBut</a> I still like this take on the T&amp;N &#039;adjustments&#039;; with our host taking a leading role in the commentary in the QLD in Jones sequel;<a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1492</a></p>
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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-12040</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/

Another paper based in the US is here;

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments


Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#039;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/</a></p>
<p>Another paper based in the US is here;</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments</a></p>
<p>Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#8217;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</p>
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		<title>By: cohenite</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>cohenite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-o...&lt;/a&gt;Another paper based in the US is here;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-t...&lt;/a&gt;Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#039;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pielke snr paper on the effect of land use on climate is here;<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-of-land-use-land-cover-change-on-climate/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/19/impacts-o&#8230;</a>Another paper based in the US is here;<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-tech-50-percent-of-the-usa-warming-that-has-occurred-since-1950-is-due-to-land-use-changes/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/11/georgia-t&#8230;</a>Obviously some land use changes would have a cooling effect but given Stewart Franks new paper which shows that an increase in temperature doesn&#039;t cause an increase in evaporation, would a dam have a cooling or a warming effect?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-12037</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Geoff.
The file ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature/daily/README.txt
is interesting reading, and the document seems adequate for an audit
trail.  Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Geoff.<br />
The file <a href="ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature/daily/README.txt" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature/daily/README.txt</a><br />
is interesting reading, and the document seems adequate for an audit<br />
trail.  Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/australian-temperature-adjustments-ii/#comment-12036</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s bad form to self-reference, but this work of David&#039;s has stations that seem to be the same as some I used in May 4th 2009 &quot;40 Years of some BOM temperature Data&quot;. I started this database in 1968 to partially overcome the problem of length of observation period that has been discussed above.

The main finding was that coastal stations had barely changed in Tmax or Tmin in that 40 years, while inland stations had a trend upwards of up to 2 deg C per century. This has to be a transient or instrumental effect, because if you project it for a few decades forwards or back, you get seemingly impossible numbers.

Then I wondered if the data were adjusted. There is relevant information in the CRU leaks, for example see this trail from &quot;Marine Shale&quot; on CA, who is a mystery name to me.

Marine_Shale (16:54:20) : 

The official Australian temperature record is also based on significant “adjustments’ of raw historical data.
The main adjustments were made by Torok and Nicholls in 1996 and then a few more adjustments were done by Paul Della-Marta in 2000.
to my knowledge this process has never been properly audited, but from a few stations that I have checked I see that there is a similar lowering of temps in the early part of the records and a raising later on.
All the data can be found in this folder.
ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature

Within the last URL there is a section named    08/02/1999 12:00AM 26,328 alladj.utx.Z
 
(This is one higher directory level up from the page that opens, under “annual”)
 
It gives the dates and magnitudes of step changes to raw data for many stations that became part of the Reference Climate Station Network. Changes range from +7 deg C to -5.5 deg C (though many of the bigger ones are in the 1800s), seemingly often for the reason that they looked better eyeballed that way. At least, I think that code &quot;o&quot; allows for eyeballing.
 
The alladj.utx.Z opens up with this at the start (then a whole lot of data, small bit given here)
 
Key
 
Station 
Element (1021=min, 1001=max)
Year
Type (1=single years, 0=all previous years)
Adjustment
Cumulative adjustment
  
 Reason : o= objective test
  f= median
  r= range
  d= detect
  
documented changes : 
m= move
s= stevenson screen supplied
b= building
v= vegetation (trees, grass growing, etc)
c= change in site/temporary site
n= new screen
p= poor site/site cleared
u= old/poor screen or screen fixed
a= composite move
e= entry/observer/instument problems
i= inspection
t= time change
*= documentation unclear
 
01013 1021 1968 0 -1.3 -1.3 fda  
01013 1021 1925 0 +0.3 -1.0 od   
01013 1001 1980 0 +0.2 +0.2 odb  
01013 1001 1968 0 -0.6 -0.4 orda 
01013 1001 1942 0 +1.3 +0.9 ord  
01013 1001 1921 0 -0.4 +0.5 ord  
02012 1021 1985 0 +0.6 +0.6 ord  
02012 1021 1959 0 -0.3 +0.3 od   
02012 1021 1947 0 +1.3 +1.6 oda  
02012 1001 1982 0 -0.4 -0.4 or   
02012 1001 1975 0 +0.2 -0.2 o    
02012 1001 1966 0 -0.5 -0.7 ord    etc etc for 2,800 lines

Station 01013 is Wyndham WA. Station 02012 is Halls Creek Airport WA. These are Australian station numbers, different to World numbers. They are on BOM sites online. 

This is the first time I have had a chance to get an eye an Australian data before it was adjusted. The moves are huge and sometimes questionable.

The Torok &amp; Nichols paper has a longer explanation for adjustments.

Torok, S. and Nicholls, N., 1996. An historical
temperature record for Australia. Aust. Met. Mag. 45, 251-260.
  
 &quot;Abstract
  A high-quality historical surface air temperature data
  set, for mean annual temperatures, has been prepared for
  Australia by adjusting data for inhomogeneities caused by
  station relocations, changes in exposure and other
  discontinuities. An objective procedure was developed for
  determining the necessary adjustments. Station history
  documentation was also used for this purpose. Time-series
  of annual mean maximum and mean minimum temperatures have been produced for 224 stations. Trends in annual mean
  maximum, minimum, the mean of the maximum and minimum,
  and the range between maximum and minimum, have been
  calculated at each site. The data set provides adequate
  spatial coverage of Australia back to 1910 for the
  production of all-Australia average temperatures. Maximum
  and minimum temperatures have increased since about 1950,
  with minimum temperatures increasing faster than the
  maximum temperatures. &quot;(Much more detail is in the body of the paper, of course).


So far as I can tell, the data that are online for BOM and Australian Weather News are adjusted and are NOT raw. To the extent that data sets are adjusted, you will get a different analysis each time you use a different set.

The 1940s &quot;bump&quot; might coincide with a lot of airfields built in the tropics and weather stations shifted there. Also, in the 1989-94 period there was a changeover from mercury max-min thermometers to thermocouple types with half-hourly recording. 

I hope this helps with understanding. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s bad form to self-reference, but this work of David&#8217;s has stations that seem to be the same as some I used in May 4th 2009 &#8220;40 Years of some BOM temperature Data&#8221;. I started this database in 1968 to partially overcome the problem of length of observation period that has been discussed above.</p>
<p>The main finding was that coastal stations had barely changed in Tmax or Tmin in that 40 years, while inland stations had a trend upwards of up to 2 deg C per century. This has to be a transient or instrumental effect, because if you project it for a few decades forwards or back, you get seemingly impossible numbers.</p>
<p>Then I wondered if the data were adjusted. There is relevant information in the CRU leaks, for example see this trail from &#8220;Marine Shale&#8221; on CA, who is a mystery name to me.</p>
<p>Marine_Shale (16:54:20) : </p>
<p>The official Australian temperature record is also based on significant “adjustments’ of raw historical data.<br />
The main adjustments were made by Torok and Nicholls in 1996 and then a few more adjustments were done by Paul Della-Marta in 2000.<br />
to my knowledge this process has never been properly audited, but from a few stations that I have checked I see that there is a similar lowering of temps in the early part of the records and a raising later on.<br />
All the data can be found in this folder.<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp2.bom.gov.au/anon/home/bmrc/perm/climate/temperature</a></p>
<p>Within the last URL there is a section named    08/02/1999 12:00AM 26,328 alladj.utx.Z</p>
<p>(This is one higher directory level up from the page that opens, under “annual”)</p>
<p>It gives the dates and magnitudes of step changes to raw data for many stations that became part of the Reference Climate Station Network. Changes range from +7 deg C to -5.5 deg C (though many of the bigger ones are in the 1800s), seemingly often for the reason that they looked better eyeballed that way. At least, I think that code &#8220;o&#8221; allows for eyeballing.</p>
<p>The alladj.utx.Z opens up with this at the start (then a whole lot of data, small bit given here)</p>
<p>Key</p>
<p>Station<br />
Element (1021=min, 1001=max)<br />
Year<br />
Type (1=single years, 0=all previous years)<br />
Adjustment<br />
Cumulative adjustment</p>
<p> Reason : o= objective test<br />
  f= median<br />
  r= range<br />
  d= detect</p>
<p>documented changes :<br />
m= move<br />
s= stevenson screen supplied<br />
b= building<br />
v= vegetation (trees, grass growing, etc)<br />
c= change in site/temporary site<br />
n= new screen<br />
p= poor site/site cleared<br />
u= old/poor screen or screen fixed<br />
a= composite move<br />
e= entry/observer/instument problems<br />
i= inspection<br />
t= time change<br />
*= documentation unclear</p>
<p>01013 1021 1968 0 -1.3 -1.3 fda<br />
01013 1021 1925 0 +0.3 -1.0 od<br />
01013 1001 1980 0 +0.2 +0.2 odb<br />
01013 1001 1968 0 -0.6 -0.4 orda<br />
01013 1001 1942 0 +1.3 +0.9 ord<br />
01013 1001 1921 0 -0.4 +0.5 ord<br />
02012 1021 1985 0 +0.6 +0.6 ord<br />
02012 1021 1959 0 -0.3 +0.3 od<br />
02012 1021 1947 0 +1.3 +1.6 oda<br />
02012 1001 1982 0 -0.4 -0.4 or<br />
02012 1001 1975 0 +0.2 -0.2 o<br />
02012 1001 1966 0 -0.5 -0.7 ord    etc etc for 2,800 lines</p>
<p>Station 01013 is Wyndham WA. Station 02012 is Halls Creek Airport WA. These are Australian station numbers, different to World numbers. They are on BOM sites online. </p>
<p>This is the first time I have had a chance to get an eye an Australian data before it was adjusted. The moves are huge and sometimes questionable.</p>
<p>The Torok &amp; Nichols paper has a longer explanation for adjustments.</p>
<p>Torok, S. and Nicholls, N., 1996. An historical<br />
temperature record for Australia. Aust. Met. Mag. 45, 251-260.</p>
<p> &#8220;Abstract<br />
  A high-quality historical surface air temperature data<br />
  set, for mean annual temperatures, has been prepared for<br />
  Australia by adjusting data for inhomogeneities caused by<br />
  station relocations, changes in exposure and other<br />
  discontinuities. An objective procedure was developed for<br />
  determining the necessary adjustments. Station history<br />
  documentation was also used for this purpose. Time-series<br />
  of annual mean maximum and mean minimum temperatures have been produced for 224 stations. Trends in annual mean<br />
  maximum, minimum, the mean of the maximum and minimum,<br />
  and the range between maximum and minimum, have been<br />
  calculated at each site. The data set provides adequate<br />
  spatial coverage of Australia back to 1910 for the<br />
  production of all-Australia average temperatures. Maximum<br />
  and minimum temperatures have increased since about 1950,<br />
  with minimum temperatures increasing faster than the<br />
  maximum temperatures. &#8220;(Much more detail is in the body of the paper, of course).</p>
<p>So far as I can tell, the data that are online for BOM and Australian Weather News are adjusted and are NOT raw. To the extent that data sets are adjusted, you will get a different analysis each time you use a different set.</p>
<p>The 1940s &#8220;bump&#8221; might coincide with a lot of airfields built in the tropics and weather stations shifted there. Also, in the 1989-94 period there was a changeover from mercury max-min thermometers to thermocouple types with half-hourly recording. </p>
<p>I hope this helps with understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is no question that the substantial land use changes Australia has experienced has effected it&#039;s climate. A good question is how, where, and how much.

Do you know of a paper by Pielke Sr which looks into this? I would enjoy having a look at that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is no question that the substantial land use changes Australia has experienced has effected it&#8217;s climate. A good question is how, where, and how much.</p>
<p>Do you know of a paper by Pielke Sr which looks into this? I would enjoy having a look at that!</p>
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