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		<title>By: ugg boots</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>ugg boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ugg boots</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-12913</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nick Stokes</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, it isn&#039;t GISS, it&#039;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#039;s why this analysis is popular.GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#039;s no reason to record.If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#039;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, it isn&#039;t GISS, it&#039;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#039;s why this analysis is popular.GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#039;s no reason to record.If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#039;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my <a href="http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm" rel="nofollow"></a>. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stokes</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-12076</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, it isn&#039;t GISS, it&#039;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#039;s why this analysis is popular.

GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#039;s no reason to record.

If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#039;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, it isn&#8217;t GISS, it&#8217;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#8217;s why this analysis is popular.</p>
<p>GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#8217;s no reason to record.</p>
<p>If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#8217;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my <a href="http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm" rel="nofollow"></a>. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stokes</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, it isn&#039;t GISS, it&#039;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#039;s why this analysis is popular.GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#039;s no reason to record.If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#039;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, it isn&#039;t GISS, it&#039;s GHCN. And the pre- and post- adjustment data is posted; that&#039;s why this analysis is popular.GHCN adjustments are not made for specific causes but in response to a change detection algorithm. So there&#039;s no reason to record.If you want to see all this in reverse, I&#039;ve analysed the case of Coonabarabran on my <a href="http://moyhu.blogspot.com/2009/12/darwin-and-ghcn-adjustments-willis.htm" rel="nofollow"></a>. Big, jumpy adjustments, but heading down, not up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-12075</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the original data, the magnitude and the reason of the correction not made available in each case?

They are in the computer, right? 

I am a mathematical physicist, I read the papers on corrections. They indicate reasons for corrections but there is no standardized algorithm; the magnitude of the correction is left to the adjuster, and based on metadata. 

Why is all this carefully hidden by GISS? 

Just saying TRUST US, WE KNOW HOW MUCH TO ADJUST THE DATA AND WHY makes it all unverifiable from the outside and certainly NOT SCIENTIFIC DATA (to put it poetically, it gives a mirror into the soul of the adjuster, rather than a prosaic mirror of reality....)

If I had this metadata and correction I could have, e.g. my Australian student who is from Darwin check what was going on with temperature records there, and all would be for the better - that is if GISS doesn&#039;t have anything to hide.

Mr. Stokes, do you realize that until you release case by case the magnitude and reason of the adjustment your data IS UNVERIFIABLE thus NOT SCIENCE.  People who do not handle their data the way scientists are supposed to do - i.e. make it available and verifiable in full - do not qualify as scientists, no matter what degree they have - I think the term is &#039;hack&#039;? 

Please don&#039;t take it personally, but please just post the data, and feel good about it! I am sure that the fellow from CRU who leaked the emails feels much better now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the original data, the magnitude and the reason of the correction not made available in each case?</p>
<p>They are in the computer, right? </p>
<p>I am a mathematical physicist, I read the papers on corrections. They indicate reasons for corrections but there is no standardized algorithm; the magnitude of the correction is left to the adjuster, and based on metadata. </p>
<p>Why is all this carefully hidden by GISS? </p>
<p>Just saying TRUST US, WE KNOW HOW MUCH TO ADJUST THE DATA AND WHY makes it all unverifiable from the outside and certainly NOT SCIENTIFIC DATA (to put it poetically, it gives a mirror into the soul of the adjuster, rather than a prosaic mirror of reality&#8230;.)</p>
<p>If I had this metadata and correction I could have, e.g. my Australian student who is from Darwin check what was going on with temperature records there, and all would be for the better &#8211; that is if GISS doesn&#8217;t have anything to hide.</p>
<p>Mr. Stokes, do you realize that until you release case by case the magnitude and reason of the adjustment your data IS UNVERIFIABLE thus NOT SCIENCE.  People who do not handle their data the way scientists are supposed to do &#8211; i.e. make it available and verifiable in full &#8211; do not qualify as scientists, no matter what degree they have &#8211; I think the term is &#8216;hack&#8217;? </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t take it personally, but please just post the data, and feel good about it! I am sure that the fellow from CRU who leaked the emails feels much better now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adrianoc</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>adrianoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the original data, the magnitude and the reason of the correction not made available in each case?They are in the computer, right? I am a mathematical physicist, I read the papers on corrections. They indicate reasons for corrections but there is no standardized algorithm; the magnitude of the correction is left to the adjuster, and based on metadata. Why is all this carefully hidden by GISS? Just saying TRUST US, WE KNOW HOW MUCH TO ADJUST THE DATA AND WHY makes it all unverifiable from the outside and certainly NOT SCIENTIFIC DATA (to put it poetically, it gives a mirror into the soul of the adjuster, rather than a prosaic mirror of reality....)If I had this metadata and correction I could have, e.g. my Australian student who is from Darwin check what was going on with temperature records there, and all would be for the better - that is if GISS doesn&#039;t have anything to hide.Mr. Stokes, do you realize that until you release case by case the magnitude and reason of the adjustment your data IS UNVERIFIABLE thus NOT SCIENCE.  People who do not handle their data the way scientists are supposed to do - i.e. make it available and verifiable in full - do not qualify as scientists, no matter what degree they have - I think the term is &#039;hack&#039;? Please don&#039;t take it personally, but please just post the data, and feel good about it! I am sure that the fellow from CRU who leaked the emails feels much better now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the original data, the magnitude and the reason of the correction not made available in each case?They are in the computer, right? I am a mathematical physicist, I read the papers on corrections. They indicate reasons for corrections but there is no standardized algorithm; the magnitude of the correction is left to the adjuster, and based on metadata. Why is all this carefully hidden by GISS? Just saying TRUST US, WE KNOW HOW MUCH TO ADJUST THE DATA AND WHY makes it all unverifiable from the outside and certainly NOT SCIENTIFIC DATA (to put it poetically, it gives a mirror into the soul of the adjuster, rather than a prosaic mirror of reality&#8230;.)If I had this metadata and correction I could have, e.g. my Australian student who is from Darwin check what was going on with temperature records there, and all would be for the better &#8211; that is if GISS doesn&#039;t have anything to hide.Mr. Stokes, do you realize that until you release case by case the magnitude and reason of the adjustment your data IS UNVERIFIABLE thus NOT SCIENCE.  People who do not handle their data the way scientists are supposed to do &#8211; i.e. make it available and verifiable in full &#8211; do not qualify as scientists, no matter what degree they have &#8211; I think the term is &#039;hack&#039;? Please don&#039;t take it personally, but please just post the data, and feel good about it! I am sure that the fellow from CRU who leaked the emails feels much better now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-12067</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My idea of a generic framework would be the kind of thing adoped by
image processing (smoothing).
See http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframes/fip-Smoothin.html
for example of some filters.  The algorithms used in homogeneity
adjustments possess elements of a median filter or a kuwahara filter.

I have not seen anything in climatology where the homogeneity
adjustments are analysed from a generic perspective, their pros and
cons relative to statistical abstractions assessed, freedom from bias
proven etc.  Because the use some documented method in some part of
their process does not mean they are not ad hoc - I read the
documentation. Look at how many times they apply it, choices of number
of breaks, termination conditions -- all non-standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My idea of a generic framework would be the kind of thing adoped by<br />
image processing (smoothing).<br />
See <a href="http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframes/fip-Smoothin.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframes/fip-Smoothin.html</a><br />
for example of some filters.  The algorithms used in homogeneity<br />
adjustments possess elements of a median filter or a kuwahara filter.</p>
<p>I have not seen anything in climatology where the homogeneity<br />
adjustments are analysed from a generic perspective, their pros and<br />
cons relative to statistical abstractions assessed, freedom from bias<br />
proven etc.  Because the use some documented method in some part of<br />
their process does not mean they are not ad hoc &#8211; I read the<br />
documentation. Look at how many times they apply it, choices of number<br />
of breaks, termination conditions &#8212; all non-standard.</p>
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		<title>By: davids99us</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/darwin-adjustments/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>davids99us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My idea of a generic framework would be the kind of thing adoped byimage processing (smoothing).See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframes/fip-Smoothin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframe...&lt;/a&gt;for example of some filters.  The algorithms used in homogeneityadjustments possess elements of a median filter or a kuwahara filter.I have not seen anything in climatology where the homogeneityadjustments are analysed from a generic perspective, their pros andcons relative to statistical abstractions assessed, freedom from biasproven etc.  Because the use some documented method in some part oftheir process does not mean they are not ad hoc - I read thedocumentation. Look at how many times they apply it, choices of numberof breaks, termination conditions -- all non-standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My idea of a generic framework would be the kind of thing adoped byimage processing (smoothing).See <a href="http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframes/fip-Smoothin.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframe" rel="nofollow">http://www.ph.tn.tudelft.nl/Courses/FIP/noframe</a>&#8230;for example of some filters.  The algorithms used in homogeneityadjustments possess elements of a median filter or a kuwahara filter.I have not seen anything in climatology where the homogeneityadjustments are analysed from a generic perspective, their pros andcons relative to statistical abstractions assessed, freedom from biasproven etc.  Because the use some documented method in some part oftheir process does not mean they are not ad hoc &#8211; I read thedocumentation. Look at how many times they apply it, choices of numberof breaks, termination conditions &#8212; all non-standard.</p>
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