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		<title>By: sherro</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete TillmanI&#039;m not buying into who is expert enough to review Ian&#039;s book because it covers a number of sub-fields and many, many references. You&#039;d need a wide-angle savant to review all the topics and such people are rare. I think you must admit partial reviews by people specialist in some sub-fields and that includes mathematics.As a geologist, you&#039;d know that if 50 geologists presented their favoured views on a nominated specialist topic, you&#039;d get more than 50 views. Very little is settled in geology. It continues to surprise.There is also a fundamental difference between climate scientists and geologists as to the treatment of data. The climate scientist will typically try to filter out nugget effects, while the geologist looks with heightened interest at such rare anomalies as Nature provides.So if a reviewer of Ian&#039;s book is from the emerging school of climate science and is not widely read, there might be a philosophical problem of comprehension of why the book was written. It was written partially to show that climate change has always been present, as shown by excursions and events that were not caused by Man.BTW, I refuse to use Wiki until there is evidence that the heavy hand of censorship has been lifted. I&#039;ve seen too many plausible examples of preferential snipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete TillmanI&#039;m not buying into who is expert enough to review Ian&#039;s book because it covers a number of sub-fields and many, many references. You&#039;d need a wide-angle savant to review all the topics and such people are rare. I think you must admit partial reviews by people specialist in some sub-fields and that includes mathematics.As a geologist, you&#039;d know that if 50 geologists presented their favoured views on a nominated specialist topic, you&#039;d get more than 50 views. Very little is settled in geology. It continues to surprise.There is also a fundamental difference between climate scientists and geologists as to the treatment of data. The climate scientist will typically try to filter out nugget effects, while the geologist looks with heightened interest at such rare anomalies as Nature provides.So if a reviewer of Ian&#039;s book is from the emerging school of climate science and is not widely read, there might be a philosophical problem of comprehension of why the book was written. It was written partially to show that climate change has always been present, as shown by excursions and events that were not caused by Man.BTW, I refuse to use Wiki until there is evidence that the heavy hand of censorship has been lifted. I&#039;ve seen too many plausible examples of preferential snipping.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete Tillman

I&#039;m not buying into who is expert enough to review Ian&#039;s book because it covers a number of sub-fields and many, many references. You&#039;d need a wide-angle savant to review all the topics and such people are rare. I think you must admit partial reviews by people specialist in some sub-fields and that includes mathematics.

As a geologist, you&#039;d know that if 50 geologists presented their favoured views on a nominated specialist topic, you&#039;d get more than 50 views. Very little is settled in geology. It continues to surprise.

There is also a fundamental difference between climate scientists and geologists as to the treatment of data. The climate scientist will typically try to filter out nugget effects, while the geologist looks with heightened interest at such rare anomalies as Nature provides.

So if a reviewer of Ian&#039;s book is from the emerging school of climate science and is not widely read, there might be a philosophical problem of comprehension of why the book was written. It was written partially to show that climate change has always been present, as shown by excursions and events that were not caused by Man.

BTW, I refuse to use Wiki until there is evidence that the heavy hand of censorship has been lifted. I&#039;ve seen too many plausible examples of preferential snipping.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not buying into who is expert enough to review Ian&#8217;s book because it covers a number of sub-fields and many, many references. You&#8217;d need a wide-angle savant to review all the topics and such people are rare. I think you must admit partial reviews by people specialist in some sub-fields and that includes mathematics.</p>
<p>As a geologist, you&#8217;d know that if 50 geologists presented their favoured views on a nominated specialist topic, you&#8217;d get more than 50 views. Very little is settled in geology. It continues to surprise.</p>
<p>There is also a fundamental difference between climate scientists and geologists as to the treatment of data. The climate scientist will typically try to filter out nugget effects, while the geologist looks with heightened interest at such rare anomalies as Nature provides.</p>
<p>So if a reviewer of Ian&#8217;s book is from the emerging school of climate science and is not widely read, there might be a philosophical problem of comprehension of why the book was written. It was written partially to show that climate change has always been present, as shown by excursions and events that were not caused by Man.</p>
<p>BTW, I refuse to use Wiki until there is evidence that the heavy hand of censorship has been lifted. I&#8217;ve seen too many plausible examples of preferential snipping.</p>
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		<title>By: peterdtillman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers who are wikipedians may wish to comment on whether Dr. Stockwell is an &quot;established expert&quot; for the purpose of including his review on the Wikipedia page for &quot;Heaven and Earth&quot; at &lt;a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Earth_%28book%29#RfC:_Should_David_Stockwell.27s_review_of_this_book_be_used_in_this_article.3F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Ea...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/a&gt;Thanks, Pete TillmanConsulting Geologist, Arizona and New Mexico (USA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers who are wikipedians may wish to comment on whether Dr. Stockwell is an &#8220;established expert&#8221; for the purpose of including his review on the Wikipedia page for &#8220;Heaven and Earth&#8221; at <a> </a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Earth_%28book%29#RfC:_Should_David_Stockwell.27s_review_of_this_book_be_used_in_this_article.3F" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Ea&#8230;</a> Thanks, Pete TillmanConsulting Geologist, Arizona and New Mexico (USA)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Readers who are wikipedians may wish to comment on whether Dr. Stockwell is an &quot;established expert&quot; for the purpose of including his review on the Wikipedia page for &quot;Heaven and Earth&quot; at &lt;a&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Earth_(book)#RfC:_Should_David_Stockwell.27s_review_of_this_book_be_used_in_this_article.3F &lt;/a&gt;

Others who have wondered why Wikipedia articles tend to follow the (eg) RealClimate/Al Gore party line, need look no further. Sigh.

Thanks &amp; cheers, Pete Tillman
Consulting Geologist, Arizona and New Mexico (USA)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers who are wikipedians may wish to comment on whether Dr. Stockwell is an &#8220;established expert&#8221; for the purpose of including his review on the Wikipedia page for &#8220;Heaven and Earth&#8221; at <a> </a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Earth_(book)#RfC:_Should_David_Stockwell.27s_review_of_this_book_be_used_in_this_article.3F" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heaven_and_Earth_(book)#RfC:_Should_David_Stockwell.27s_review_of_this_book_be_used_in_this_article.3F</a> </p>
<p>Others who have wondered why Wikipedia articles tend to follow the (eg) RealClimate/Al Gore party line, need look no further. Sigh.</p>
<p>Thanks &amp; cheers, Pete Tillman<br />
Consulting Geologist, Arizona and New Mexico (USA)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current situation in Oz.&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_fieldings_must_answer_question/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/i...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current situation in Oz.<a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_fieldings_must_answer_question/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/i&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current situation in Oz.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_fieldings_must_answer_question/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current situation in Oz.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_fieldings_must_answer_question/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_fieldings_must_answer_question/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter below was sent to the UK Prome Minister and has yey to be responded to.Ask your Governemnt to supply you with the Climate Science being used toi justify Kyoto to enable you to ahve it Peer Reviewed.The UK and Austarian Governemnts are uanble to respond and appear not to have any Climate Science which confirms Govt. Policy.Try yourself.If anyone quotes a Computer Climate Model, gain access to it and run it backwards for 150000 years to see if it picks up known climate events. If it does it is validated. The UK Met. Office has gone silent about this request.Dear Prime Minister: As accredited experts in climate and related scientific disciplines, we are writing to propose that balanced, comprehensive public-consultation sessions be held so as to examine the scientific foundation of the federal government&#039;s climate-change plans.Observational evidence does not support today&#039;s computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future. Yet this is precisely what the United Nations did in creating and promoting Kyoto and still does in the alarmist forecasts on which Canada&#039;s climate policies are based. While the confident pronouncements of scientifically unqualified environmental groups may provide for sensational headlines, they are no basis for mature policy formulation. The study of global climate change is, as you have said, an &#039;emerging science,&#039; one that is perhaps the most complex ever tackled. It may be many years yet before we properly understand the Earth&#039;s climate system. Nevertheless, significant advances have been made since the protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary.&#039;Climate change is real&#039; is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural &#039;noise.&#039; The new Canadian government&#039;s commitment to reducing air, land and water pollution is commendable, but allocating funds to &#039;stopping climate change&#039; would be irrational. We need to continue intensive research into the real causes of climate change and help our most vulnerable citizens adapt to whatever nature throws at us next.And hereâ€™s who they were:Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia&#039;s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of OttawaDr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, OttawaDr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, OttawaDr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural HazardsDr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultantDr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geologyMr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, OttawaDr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of AlbertaDr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of VictoriaDr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, HalifaxDr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of AlbertaDr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, CalgaryPaavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyDr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State ClimatologistsDr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, AustraliaDr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, AustraliaMr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical ReviewDr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological InstituteDr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New ZealandDr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of VirginiaDr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics &amp; geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, SwedenDr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, HuntsvilleDr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRSDr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, PolandDr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy &amp; EnvironmentDr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate changeDr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director a
nd state geologist, Kansas Geological SurveyDr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, NorwayDr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New ZealandDr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of &#039;Climate Change 2001,&#039; Wellington, N.Z.Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of ConnecticutDr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite ServiceDr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological &amp; Mining SocietyDr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State UniversityDr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, SwitzerlandDipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, GermanyDr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, FinlandDr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, SwedenDr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public healthDr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economistDr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.Meanwhile, the New Zealand Herald reports that a group of leading climate scientists has announced the formation of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, aimed at refuting what it believes are unfounded claims about man-made global warming because they have had enough of â€˜over-exaggeratedâ€™ claims about the effects of man-made global warming and aim to provide a balance to â€˜what is being fed to the people of New Zealandâ€™.The coalition includes such well-known climate scientists as: Dr Vincent Gray, of Wellington, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most recently a visiting scholar at the Beijing Climate Centre in China. Dr Gerrit J van der Lingen, of Christchurch, geologist/paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, former director GRAINZ (Geoscience Research and Investigations New Zealand). Prof August H. (Augie) Auer, of Auckland, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand. Professor Bob Carter, a New Zealander, now at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Queensland, Australia. Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth, who conducts a comprehensive website: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.warwickhughes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.warwickhughes.com&lt;/a&gt; Roger Dewhurst, of Katikati, consulting environmental geologist and hydrogeologist. Owen McShane, of Kaiwaka, director of the Centre for Resource Management Studies, who is convenor of the establishment committee, said many scientists and economists were concerned that the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had an effective monopoly on public announcements on global warming. â€™Its statements go largely unchallenged -- or go largely unchallenged in a format that will carry weight with governments, the media or the general public,â€™ said Mr McShane.Is that faint thundering I hear the sound of the cavalry arriving at last?As ever Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter below was sent to the UK Prome Minister and has yey to be responded to.Ask your Governemnt to supply you with the Climate Science being used toi justify Kyoto to enable you to ahve it Peer Reviewed.The UK and Austarian Governemnts are uanble to respond and appear not to have any Climate Science which confirms Govt. Policy.Try yourself.If anyone quotes a Computer Climate Model, gain access to it and run it backwards for 150000 years to see if it picks up known climate events. If it does it is validated. The UK Met. Office has gone silent about this request.Dear Prime Minister: As accredited experts in climate and related scientific disciplines, we are writing to propose that balanced, comprehensive public-consultation sessions be held so as to examine the scientific foundation of the federal government&#039;s climate-change plans.Observational evidence does not support today&#039;s computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future. Yet this is precisely what the United Nations did in creating and promoting Kyoto and still does in the alarmist forecasts on which Canada&#039;s climate policies are based. While the confident pronouncements of scientifically unqualified environmental groups may provide for sensational headlines, they are no basis for mature policy formulation. The study of global climate change is, as you have said, an &#039;emerging science,&#039; one that is perhaps the most complex ever tackled. It may be many years yet before we properly understand the Earth&#039;s climate system. Nevertheless, significant advances have been made since the protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary.&#039;Climate change is real&#039; is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural &#039;noise.&#039; The new Canadian government&#039;s commitment to reducing air, land and water pollution is commendable, but allocating funds to &#039;stopping climate change&#039; would be irrational. We need to continue intensive research into the real causes of climate change and help our most vulnerable citizens adapt to whatever nature throws at us next.And hereâ€™s who they were:Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia&#039;s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of OttawaDr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, OttawaDr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, OttawaDr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural HazardsDr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultantDr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geologyMr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, OttawaDr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of AlbertaDr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of VictoriaDr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, HalifaxDr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of AlbertaDr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, CalgaryPaavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyDr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State ClimatologistsDr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, AustraliaDr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, AustraliaMr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical ReviewDr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological InstituteDr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New ZealandDr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of VirginiaDr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics &amp; geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, SwedenDr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, HuntsvilleDr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRSDr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, PolandDr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy &amp; EnvironmentDr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate changeDr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director a<br />
nd state geologist, Kansas Geological SurveyDr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, NorwayDr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New ZealandDr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of &#039;Climate Change 2001,&#039; Wellington, N.Z.Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of ConnecticutDr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite ServiceDr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological &amp; Mining SocietyDr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State UniversityDr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, SwitzerlandDipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, GermanyDr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, FinlandDr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, SwedenDr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public healthDr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economistDr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.Meanwhile, the New Zealand Herald reports that a group of leading climate scientists has announced the formation of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, aimed at refuting what it believes are unfounded claims about man-made global warming because they have had enough of â€˜over-exaggeratedâ€™ claims about the effects of man-made global warming and aim to provide a balance to â€˜what is being fed to the people of New Zealandâ€™.The coalition includes such well-known climate scientists as: Dr Vincent Gray, of Wellington, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most recently a visiting scholar at the Beijing Climate Centre in China. Dr Gerrit J van der Lingen, of Christchurch, geologist/paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, former director GRAINZ (Geoscience Research and Investigations New Zealand). Prof August H. (Augie) Auer, of Auckland, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand. Professor Bob Carter, a New Zealander, now at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Queensland, Australia. Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth, who conducts a comprehensive website: <a href="http://www.warwickhughes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.warwickhughes.com</a> Roger Dewhurst, of Katikati, consulting environmental geologist and hydrogeologist. Owen McShane, of Kaiwaka, director of the Centre for Resource Management Studies, who is convenor of the establishment committee, said many scientists and economists were concerned that the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had an effective monopoly on public announcements on global warming. â€™Its statements go largely unchallenged &#8212; or go largely unchallenged in a format that will carry weight with governments, the media or the general public,â€™ said Mr McShane.Is that faint thundering I hear the sound of the cavalry arriving at last?As ever Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Hackett</title>
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The letter below was sent to the UK Prome Minister and has yey to be responded to.

Ask your Governemnt to supply you with the Climate Science being used toi justify Kyoto to enable you to ahve it Peer Reviewed.

The UK and Austarian Governemnts are uanble to respond and appear not to have any Climate Science which confirms Govt. Policy.

Try yourself.

If anyone quotes a Computer Climate Model, gain access to it and run it backwards for 150000 years to see if it picks up known climate events. If it does it is validated. The UK Met. Office has gone silent about this request.

Dear Prime Minister: 
As accredited experts in climate and related scientific disciplines, we are writing to propose that balanced, comprehensive public-consultation sessions be held so as to examine the scientific foundation of the federal government&#039;s climate-change plans.
Observational evidence does not support today&#039;s computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future. Yet this is precisely what the United Nations did in creating and promoting Kyoto and still does in the alarmist forecasts on which Canada&#039;s climate policies are based. While the confident pronouncements of scientifically unqualified environmental groups may provide for sensational headlines, they are no basis for mature policy formulation. 
The study of global climate change is, as you have said, an &#039;emerging science,&#039; one that is perhaps the most complex ever tackled. It may be many years yet before we properly understand the Earth&#039;s climate system. Nevertheless, significant advances have been made since the protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary.

&#039;Climate change is real&#039; is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural &#039;noise.&#039; The new Canadian government&#039;s commitment to reducing air, land and water pollution is commendable, but allocating funds to &#039;stopping climate change&#039; would be irrational. We need to continue intensive research into the real causes of climate change and help our most vulnerable citizens adapt to whatever nature throws at us next.
And here’s who they were:
Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa 
Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia&#039;s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Dr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Ottawa
Dr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa
Dr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural Hazards
Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.
Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.
Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultant
Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology
Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa
Dr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.
Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of Alberta
Dr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.
Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria
Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax
Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.
Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta
Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.
Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary
Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.
Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.
Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.
Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists
Dr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia
Dr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia
Mr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical Review
Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand
Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia
Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics &amp; geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden
Dr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.
Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville
Dr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.
Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS
Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)
Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland
Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy &amp; Environment
Dr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate change
Dr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey
Dr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway
Dr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand
Dr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of &#039;Climate Change 2001,&#039; Wellington, N.Z.
Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of Connecticut
Dr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.
Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.
Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000
Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service
Dr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological &amp; Mining Society
Dr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University
Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.
Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland
Dipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, Germany
Dr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland
Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden
Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.
Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.
Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public health
Dr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economist
Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.
Meanwhile, the New Zealand Herald reports that a group of leading climate scientists has announced the formation of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, aimed at refuting what it believes are unfounded claims about man-made global warming because they have had enough of ‘over-exaggerated’ claims about the effects of man-made global warming and aim to provide a balance to ‘what is being fed to the people of New Zealand’.
The coalition includes such well-known climate scientists as: 
Dr Vincent Gray, of Wellington, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most recently a visiting scholar at the Beijing Climate Centre in China. 
Dr Gerrit J van der Lingen, of Christchurch, geologist/paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, former director GRAINZ (Geoscience Research and Investigations New Zealand). 
Prof August H. (Augie) Auer, of Auckland, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand. 
Professor Bob Carter, a New Zealander, now at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Queensland, Australia. 
Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth, who conducts a comprehensive website: www.warwickhughes.com 
Roger Dewhurst, of Katikati, consulting environmental geologist and hydrogeologist. 
Owen McShane, of Kaiwaka, director of the Centre for Resource Management Studies, who is convenor of the establishment committee, said many scientists and economists were concerned that the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had an effective monopoly on public announcements on global warming. 
’Its statements go largely unchallenged -- or go largely unchallenged in a format that will carry weight with governments, the media or the general public,’ said Mr McShane.
Is that faint thundering I hear the sound of the cavalry arriving at last?



As ever 
Phil

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter below was sent to the UK Prome Minister and has yey to be responded to.</p>
<p>Ask your Governemnt to supply you with the Climate Science being used toi justify Kyoto to enable you to ahve it Peer Reviewed.</p>
<p>The UK and Austarian Governemnts are uanble to respond and appear not to have any Climate Science which confirms Govt. Policy.</p>
<p>Try yourself.</p>
<p>If anyone quotes a Computer Climate Model, gain access to it and run it backwards for 150000 years to see if it picks up known climate events. If it does it is validated. The UK Met. Office has gone silent about this request.</p>
<p>Dear Prime Minister:<br />
As accredited experts in climate and related scientific disciplines, we are writing to propose that balanced, comprehensive public-consultation sessions be held so as to examine the scientific foundation of the federal government&#8217;s climate-change plans.<br />
Observational evidence does not support today&#8217;s computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future. Yet this is precisely what the United Nations did in creating and promoting Kyoto and still does in the alarmist forecasts on which Canada&#8217;s climate policies are based. While the confident pronouncements of scientifically unqualified environmental groups may provide for sensational headlines, they are no basis for mature policy formulation.<br />
The study of global climate change is, as you have said, an &#8216;emerging science,&#8217; one that is perhaps the most complex ever tackled. It may be many years yet before we properly understand the Earth&#8217;s climate system. Nevertheless, significant advances have been made since the protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary.</p>
<p>&#8216;Climate change is real&#8217; is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural &#8216;noise.&#8217; The new Canadian government&#8217;s commitment to reducing air, land and water pollution is commendable, but allocating funds to &#8216;stopping climate change&#8217; would be irrational. We need to continue intensive research into the real causes of climate change and help our most vulnerable citizens adapt to whatever nature throws at us next.<br />
And here’s who they were:<br />
Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa<br />
Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia&#8217;s National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa<br />
Dr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Ottawa<br />
Dr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa<br />
Dr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural Hazards<br />
Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.<br />
Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.<br />
Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultant<br />
Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology<br />
Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa<br />
Dr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.<br />
Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of Alberta<br />
Dr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.<br />
Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria<br />
Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax<br />
Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.<br />
Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta<br />
Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.<br />
Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.<br />
Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary<br />
Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.<br />
Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.<br />
Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology<br />
Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.<br />
Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists<br />
Dr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia<br />
Dr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia<br />
Mr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical Review<br />
Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute<br />
Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand<br />
Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia<br />
Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics &amp; geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden<br />
Dr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.<br />
Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville<br />
Dr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.<br />
Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS<br />
Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)<br />
Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland<br />
Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy &amp; Environment<br />
Dr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate change<br />
Dr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey<br />
Dr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway<br />
Dr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand<br />
Dr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of &#8216;Climate Change 2001,&#8217; Wellington, N.Z.<br />
Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of Connecticut<br />
Dr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.<br />
Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.<br />
Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000<br />
Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service<br />
Dr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological &amp; Mining Society<br />
Dr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University<br />
Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.<br />
Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland<br />
Dipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, Germany<br />
Dr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland<br />
Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden<br />
Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.<br />
Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.<br />
Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public health<br />
Dr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economist<br />
Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.<br />
Meanwhile, the New Zealand Herald reports that a group of leading climate scientists has announced the formation of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, aimed at refuting what it believes are unfounded claims about man-made global warming because they have had enough of ‘over-exaggerated’ claims about the effects of man-made global warming and aim to provide a balance to ‘what is being fed to the people of New Zealand’.<br />
The coalition includes such well-known climate scientists as:<br />
Dr Vincent Gray, of Wellington, an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), most recently a visiting scholar at the Beijing Climate Centre in China.<br />
Dr Gerrit J van der Lingen, of Christchurch, geologist/paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, former director GRAINZ (Geoscience Research and Investigations New Zealand).<br />
Prof August H. (Augie) Auer, of Auckland, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand.<br />
Professor Bob Carter, a New Zealander, now at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Queensland, Australia.<br />
Warwick Hughes, a New Zealand earth scientist living in Perth, who conducts a comprehensive website: <a href="http://www.warwickhughes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.warwickhughes.com</a><br />
Roger Dewhurst, of Katikati, consulting environmental geologist and hydrogeologist.<br />
Owen McShane, of Kaiwaka, director of the Centre for Resource Management Studies, who is convenor of the establishment committee, said many scientists and economists were concerned that the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had an effective monopoly on public announcements on global warming.<br />
’Its statements go largely unchallenged &#8212; or go largely unchallenged in a format that will carry weight with governments, the media or the general public,’ said Mr McShane.<br />
Is that faint thundering I hear the sound of the cavalry arriving at last?</p>
<p>As ever<br />
Phil</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<description>Professor Michael Ashley wrote a useful critique of Ian Plimer&#039;s book for The Australian. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C%2C25433059-5003900%2C00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,2...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Michael Ashley wrote a useful critique of Ian Plimer&#039;s book for The Australian. <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C%2C25433059-5003900%2C00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,2&#8230;</a></p>
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