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David–
Does the method describe how to estimate the uncertainty in the “mean” value around the trend line?
I’m puzzled about this because the Rahmstorf7 method involves: Fit, slide (to the match 1990’s average to the IPCC zero point) and eyeball.
You are discussing the fit on the endpoint. But uncertainty in the “slide” amount should normally be discussed in a paper like Rahmstorf. If I estimate uncertainty in means calculated using an 11 year centered average, that uncertainty is also enough to significantly affect the later “calibrated eyeball” comparison of the observations to the projections.
Gosh… R won’t call you? And Tamino suggested that I was silly to ask my readers a question about his paper. Evidently, I should have just picked up the phone and called!
Comment by lucia — April 9, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
Thanks, David. Could you also explain to the ignorant, please, the meaning of an ‘embedding period of 11 years’ for the non-linear trend analysis?
The Rhamstorf et.al. note treats data in the IPCC charts over the 1990-2006 period as ‘projections’ and tests them against observations. Lucia Liljegren argues, however, that only the IPCC chart-data over the period 2000-2006 are in fact a projection of the IPCC models. Ian Castles seems to share that view. This implies Rhamstorff et.al. have at best a 6 year period on which to base their ‘non-linear trends’; not 16 years and not 11 years. Does the ‘embedding period’ have a relevance to the reliability of the trends asserted in Rhamstorff et.al.?
Comment by Peter Gallagher — April 10, 2008 @ 2:27 am
#1 Lucia, No, there are no measures of uncertainty or statistical tests in the Rahmstorf’7s paper. The claims are purely based on eyeball tests.
#2 Peter, You know, I am not sure either, but it is an option in the SSA analysis