Comments on: SSA decomposition of HadCRU http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/ The Power of Numeracy Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Niche Modeling » Proof of AGW http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1522 Niche Modeling » Proof of AGW Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:01:18 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1522 [...] Table of contents for SSAAnother Copenhagen Synthesis Report Error?R code for SSA exampleSSA decomposition of HadCRUProof of [...] [...] Table of contents for SSAAnother Copenhagen Synthesis Report Error?R code for SSA exampleSSA decomposition of HadCRUProof of [...]

]]> By: cohenite http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1523 cohenite Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:05:45 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1523 Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even. Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even.

]]> By: Nick Stokes http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1526 Nick Stokes Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:35:24 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1526 David, I don't have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I'm not even sure that you could produce a "raw data" plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you'll need to gather to support it.If USHCN was inserted "suggestively", what claim is it suggesting? David, I don't have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I'm not even sure that you could produce a “raw data” plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you'll need to gather to support it.If USHCN was inserted “suggestively”, what claim is it suggesting?

]]> By: davids99us http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1525 davids99us Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:26:20 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1525 Note that the line above is a question. And the USHCN was just an image inserted suggestively below. No such claim as you imply was made. Is not adjustment of the HadCRU data a secret? Is not the raw data unavailable, so we can't check it? If you have a graph of the adjustment on the HadCRU data, please let me know so I can replace it. Note that the line above is a question. And the USHCN was just an image inserted suggestively below. No such claim as you imply was made. Is not adjustment of the HadCRU data a secret? Is not the raw data unavailable, so we can't check it? If you have a graph of the adjustment on the HadCRU data, please let me know so I can replace it.

]]> By: Nick Stokes http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1524 Nick Stokes Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:58:29 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1524 David,You need to read carefully. The data you have analysed is gloibal, land&sea. The adjustments you have cited were applied to US continental temperatures (USHCN), not to Hadcrut. They could not be reflected in the SSA Analysis.And if you might be inclined to say that maybe similar adjustments were applied, the answer is no. Hadcrut is dominated by ocean. Any adjustments there would be totally different.A further, redundant, objection is that if EOF2 did reflect the adjustments, it should do so quantitatively, since it would operate as a matter of arithmetic. EOF2 has a rise of about 0,6C. The adjustment to US temps is 0.6F. David,You need to read carefully. The data you have analysed is gloibal, land&sea. The adjustments you have cited were applied to US continental temperatures (USHCN), not to Hadcrut. They could not be reflected in the SSA Analysis.And if you might be inclined to say that maybe similar adjustments were applied, the answer is no. Hadcrut is dominated by ocean. Any adjustments there would be totally different.A further, redundant, objection is that if EOF2 did reflect the adjustments, it should do so quantitatively, since it would operate as a matter of arithmetic. EOF2 has a rise of about 0,6C. The adjustment to US temps is 0.6F.

]]> By: cohenite http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1521 cohenite Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:05:45 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1521 Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even. Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even.

]]> By: cohenite http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-11339 cohenite Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:05:00 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-11339 Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even. Even so Nick, the 2nd and last graphs are interesting, suggestive even.

]]> By: Nick Stokes http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1520 Nick Stokes Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:35:24 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1520 David, I don't have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I'm not even sure that you could produce a "raw data" plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you'll need to gather to support it.If USHCN was inserted "suggestively", what claim is it suggesting? David, I don't have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I'm not even sure that you could produce a “raw data” plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you'll need to gather to support it.If USHCN was inserted “suggestively”, what claim is it suggesting?

]]> By: Nick Stokes http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-11338 Nick Stokes Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:35:00 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-11338 David, I don't have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I'm not even sure that you could produce a "raw data" plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you'll need to gather to support it. If USHCN was inserted "suggestively", what claim is it suggesting? David, I don’t have a graph of the adjustment on Hadcrut data. I’m not even sure that you could produce a “raw data” plot. Ocean sampling is different from fixed land stations. But if you want to suggest that EOF2 reflects some adjustment procedure, that is data that you’ll need to gather to support it.

If USHCN was inserted “suggestively”, what claim is it suggesting?

]]> By: davids99us http://landshape.org/enm/ssa-decomposition-of-hadcru/#comment-1519 davids99us Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:26:20 +0000 http://landshape.org/enm/?p=2494#comment-1519 Note that the line above is a question. And the USHCN was just an image inserted suggestively below. No such claim as you imply was made. Is not adjustment of the HadCRU data a secret? Is not the raw data unavailable, so we can't check it? If you have a graph of the adjustment on the HadCRU data, please let me know so I can replace it. Note that the line above is a question. And the USHCN was just an image inserted suggestively below. No such claim as you imply was made. Is not adjustment of the HadCRU data a secret? Is not the raw data unavailable, so we can't check it? If you have a graph of the adjustment on the HadCRU data, please let me know so I can replace it.

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