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		<title>By: Niche Modeling &#187; Weakening of the Walker Circulation</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Niche Modeling &#187; Weakening of the Walker Circulation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Great Pacific Climate Shift in 1976 and the potential shift we identified in 1998 in our &#8216;breaks&#8217; paper. Also, &#916;SLP seems to have returned to normal after 1998, further contradicting the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Great Pacific Climate Shift in 1976 and the potential shift we identified in 1998 in our &#8216;breaks&#8217; paper. Also, &Delta;SLP seems to have returned to normal after 1998, further contradicting the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go:<a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Koss</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Koss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swanson&#039;s post at RC says &quot;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&quot;Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#039;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#039;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)Here is a graphic. &lt;a href=&quot;http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif&lt;/a&gt;I donâ€™t see how they can say there is anything being stored â€˜in the pipe-lineâ€™ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swanson&#039;s post at RC says &#8220;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&#8221;Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#039;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#039;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)Here is a graphic. <a href="http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif" rel="nofollow">http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif</a>I donâ€™t see how they can say there is anything being stored â€˜in the pipe-lineâ€™ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go:<a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/200</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-11507</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go:
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go:<br />
<a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/04/08/has-the-climate-recently-shifted/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Koss</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Koss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swanson&#039;s post at RC says &quot;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&quot;Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#039;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#039;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)Here is a graphic. &lt;a href=&quot;http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif&lt;/a&gt;I donâ€™t see how they can say there is anything being stored â€˜in the pipe-lineâ€™ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swanson&#039;s post at RC says &#8220;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&#8221;Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#039;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#039;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)Here is a graphic. <a href="http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif" rel="nofollow">http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif</a>I donâ€™t see how they can say there is anything being stored â€˜in the pipe-lineâ€™ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Koss</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-11506</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Koss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swanson&#039;s post at RC says &quot;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&quot;

Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#039;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.

I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#039;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.

There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)

Here is a graphic. http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif

I don’t see how they can say there is anything being stored ‘in the pipe-line’ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.

The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swanson&#8217;s post at RC says &#8220;The figure to the left shows the spatial mean temperature over all grid boxes in the HadCRUT3 data set that have continuous monthly coverage over the 1901-2008 period.&#8221;</p>
<p>Requiring all grid boxes used to have no missing months is a pretty strict standard. I have Giss station data from a couple years ago and I could find only 77 stations world-wide that would qualify with perfect data through 2006. 52 of those are US. I realize they used Hadcrut instead, but it makes me wonder what percentage of global coverage they actually achieved. I think qualifying ocean grid-cells would also be pretty sparse. I suspect their coverage ended up being less than 25% of the globe. But I&#8217;m not interested enough to thoroughly check.</p>
<p>I downloaded a Giss table of global temperature anomalies and calculated the yearly changes. The 1998 temperature increase, although substantial, at 0.17C it wasn&#8217;t even a 2 sigma event.(+/-0.22C change in one year) There was a 2 sigma temperature decrease in 1999 that immediately wiped out all the 1998 increase and most of the 1997 increase.</p>
<p>There are seven 2 sigma temperature changes in the Giss record. Temperature increases in 1957 &amp; 1977. Temperature decreases in 1890, 1964*, 1974, 1992*, and 1999. (* volcano?)</p>
<p>Here is a graphic. <a href="http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif" rel="nofollow">http://i30.tinypic.com/10o1vz5.gif</a></p>
<p>I don’t see how they can say there is anything being stored ‘in the pipe-line’ that is going to somehow appear a decade or so down the road.</p>
<p>The 32 year trend lines sure look to me like a little natural warming being alternately depressed then enhanced by the PDO every half cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Harvey</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I would &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; love to see this Kiehl 2007 paper on climate models and their ability to simulate that ol&#039; &#039;aerosols caused the global cooling of the 70s&#039; storyline discussed in connection with this Swanson &amp; Tsonis 2009 theory.Kiehl, J. T. (2007), Twentieth century climate model response and climate sensitivity, Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L22710, doi:10.1029/2007GL031383.&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main/ClimateModelingClass/kiehl_2007GL031383.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main...&lt;/a&gt;This paper (cited in Lindzen 2009, &quot;Climate Science: Is it currently designed to answer questions?&quot;, ArXiv) is only 4 pages long, mostly readable by non-specialists, and asks some VERY interesting questions, given that these questions are coming from an IPCC person like Jeffrey Kiehl...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I would <i>really</i> love to see this Kiehl 2007 paper on climate models and their ability to simulate that ol&#039; &#039;aerosols caused the global cooling of the 70s&#039; storyline discussed in connection with this Swanson &amp; Tsonis 2009 theory.Kiehl, J. T. (2007), Twentieth century climate model response and climate sensitivity, Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L22710, doi:10.1029/2007GL031383.<a href="https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main/ClimateModelingClass/kiehl_2007GL031383.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main" rel="nofollow">https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main</a>&#8230;This paper (cited in Lindzen 2009, &#8220;Climate Science: Is it currently designed to answer questions?&#8221;, ArXiv) is only 4 pages long, mostly readable by non-specialists, and asks some VERY interesting questions, given that these questions are coming from an IPCC person like Jeffrey Kiehl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Harvey</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-11496</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I would &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; love to see this Kiehl 2007 paper on climate models and their ability to simulate that ol&#039; &#039;aerosols caused the global cooling of the 70s&#039; storyline discussed in connection with this Swanson &amp; Tsonis 2009 theory.

Kiehl, J. T. (2007), Twentieth century climate model response and climate sensitivity, Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L22710, doi:10.1029/2007GL031383.

https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main/ClimateModelingClass/kiehl_2007GL031383.pdf

This paper (cited in Lindzen 2009, &quot;Climate Science: Is it currently designed to answer questions?&quot;, ArXiv) is only 4 pages long, mostly readable by non-specialists, and asks some VERY interesting questions, given that these questions are coming from an IPCC person like Jeffrey Kiehl...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I would <i>really</i> love to see this Kiehl 2007 paper on climate models and their ability to simulate that ol&#8217; &#8216;aerosols caused the global cooling of the 70s&#8217; storyline discussed in connection with this Swanson &amp; Tsonis 2009 theory.</p>
<p>Kiehl, J. T. (2007), Twentieth century climate model response and climate sensitivity, Geophys. Res. Lett., 34, L22710, doi:10.1029/2007GL031383.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main/ClimateModelingClass/kiehl_2007GL031383.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.atmos.washington.edu/twiki/pub/Main/ClimateModelingClass/kiehl_2007GL031383.pdf</a></p>
<p>This paper (cited in Lindzen 2009, &#8220;Climate Science: Is it currently designed to answer questions?&#8221;, ArXiv) is only 4 pages long, mostly readable by non-specialists, and asks some VERY interesting questions, given that these questions are coming from an IPCC person like Jeffrey Kiehl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: davids99us</title>
		<link>http://landshape.org/enm/swansons-pc-projection/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>davids99us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it seems really strange that a lay person can see this, whereas Ph.D climate scientists apparently can&#039;t...&quot; Beats me too. GRL is a joke.  Check out IJF sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it seems really strange that a lay person can see this, whereas Ph.D climate scientists apparently can&#039;t&#8230;&#8221; Beats me too. GRL is a joke.  Check out IJF sometime.</p>
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