Comments on: The Intelligent Design of MBH98

By: Niche Modeling » Intelligent Design of Jenny Chow (again)

Niche Modeling » Intelligent Design of Jenny Chow (again) — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:35:26 +0000

[...] Statistics packages like R are fun for ‘doing it yourself’ and getting involved in the debates. Just after the release of the National Academy of Sciences report ‘Surface Temperature Reconstructions for the Last 2,000 Years‘ I compared the ‘hockey stick graph’ — a reconstruction of Millennial global temperatures based on tree-ring and other proxies by Mann and colleagues to a broadway production The Intelligent Design of Jenny Chow. However, for critical policy oriented work on climate I strongly support the main findings of the recently released report “ Ad Hoc Committee Report on the ‘Hockey Stick’ Global Climate Reconstruction“, namely: [...]

By: misty

misty — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:27:50 +0000

This is very interesting site

By: Steve Sadlov

Steve Sadlov — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:03:39 +0000

RE: #21. Or who wouldn’t know a Gaia if they ran over one while cruising down the interstate? LOL ….

By: admin

admin — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:05:24 +0000

I confess I went that way myself until I got real. Thankfully not everyone is the same. There are whole groups of society who wouldn’t know a Gaia if they drove one.

By: Steve Sadlov

Steve Sadlov — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:46:07 +0000

According to the “Deep Ecology” notions I was fond of in my naive and reckless youth, Man, especially capitalist, industrial man, was to be considered a sort of virus infecting Gaia. It’s interesting yet frightening. When I first read “Ecotopia” I was quite taken with it and actually adopted that vision as my goal, a goal, happily, long since discarded. If you read the prequel, “Ecotopia Emerging” there are descriptions of mobs chasing down cars in San Francisco and attacking them and their drivers. The protagonists of the “Ecotopian Revolution” recruit people at Lawrence Livermore, steal warheads and use nuclear blackmail to accomplish their putsch. Having formed their utopian state they adopt a number of authoritarian attributes. Looking back at it all, I cringe. Sadly, some of my contemporaries from those days have probably not really changed.

By: David Stockwell

David Stockwell — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:16:31 +0000

I don’t know Dano or follow many blogs much.

It is one of those delicious moments when you can say I told you so. If they had read M&Ms papers when they came out and followed the blog, it was a plain as day they were right, and the NAS report agreed. I don’t see much division though. AGW is more of a group think in my circles and I get dismissed as a curiosity for saying its exaggerated. AGW is the institution in ecology.

By: Steve Sadlov

Steve Sadlov — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:12:27 +0000

Obviously, both the NAS report and this blog entry pressed one of Dano’s hot buttons. Dano and ilk remind me strongly of 20th century European, prolitariat manipulating procrustean dictators. Masters of ad hom, purveyors of fear. Speaking of fear, I’d like to share a fear I have. This faux “debate” (faux in that most of the actual conflict really comes from the Hockey Team and friends as they, instead of addressing legit points, go ad hom or otherwise fight) is MEANT to divide. It is MEANT to divide the scientific and technical community against itself. It is MEANT to move things from the realm of agnostic analysis, structured problem solving and real discource into the realm of science serving ideology. It is all about revolution. It is all about overturning the institutions. So, back to my fear. My fear is that there now exist, here in America, the seeds of a monstrosity that previously only the Old World has known. I remember when I was living in a Freshman dorm, I heard the most interesting statement from someone. We lived in a themed hall that was focussed on Environmentalism. While the majority were orthodox Gaia worshippers, there were a few odd men out. One such odd man, who was a principled conservative conservationists in the Theodore Roosevelt mold, said the following. He said that the rising tide of radical environmentalists at the time (early 80s) reminded him of a past rising tide. That past rising tide was a tide of “volk” – a tide of “volk” who wanted a simpler life, a reduced and “cleansed” population and a new sort of spiritualism that brought northern European shamanism back into the popular arena. Of course history does not precisely repeat. However …..

By: Niche Modeling » Rings of Noise on Hockey Stick Graph

Niche Modeling » Rings of Noise on Hockey Stick Graph — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:20:20 +0000

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By: admin

admin — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:29:44 +0000

the totem is false

That the NAS found the totem flawed is a fact.

By: Ed Snack

Ed Snack — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:27:42 +0000

Ah, the estimable Danny boy. Dishonest to the last I see. Got any more scientists whose work you classify as unreliable you’d like to traduce my lad ? “Deconstructing Narrative intent”, ooh, cleverness incarnate strikes again. At least with you, we know your narrative intent, misdirection and distraction.

As an aside, I wonder if you would ever consider analysing the writing style of Greenpeace, you should feel totally at home with their usual mix of hysteria, emotive language, and outright dishonesty.